by Guest » Sat Feb 18, 2006 10:21 am
My cousin Bob and another guy went for a long drive last Saturday evening and got struck by a rash driver from a distance. The bully escaped narrowly but was trapped later in the morning .The repair works for Bob would be somewhat around $4000. Bob's insurer had agreed to support him with aftermarket body parts for his vehicle, to which Bob's reaction was simple and stern. He did not want his insurer to provide him with aftermarket parts. He maintained that it was his insurer's job to collect the new parts from the tormentor. He had a hard time convincing the insurance representative till he revealed his other identity as an attorney.
Of late his insurance company has offered him new market parts, and also expressed their willingness to resolve matters soon. Could we ever look forward to a hassle-free world ?
Regards,
Blackberry
Of late his insurance company has offered him new market parts, and also expressed their willingness to resolve matters soon. Could we ever look forward to a hassle-free world ?
Regards,
Blackberry
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:01 am Post Subject: The aftermath
These cases throw light upon the fact that only the fittest can survive in this competitive world. Both consumers and insurers have to fight with each other, in order to establish their ideas and rights.
Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2006 11:55 am Post Subject: tort laws
Aftermarket body parts are allowed by a majority of insurance policies, incase they are not barred by law. Henceforth, one should not look forward for an inclusion of the reduced market value in his claim. Claims are generally built under a tort law instead of any contract law, especially when the other party has a flaw.
Posted: Fri Mar 24, 2006 06:03 am Post Subject:
despite common knowledge, insurance companies and adjustera aren't intimidated at all with attorneys; quite the opposite, I prefer working with them b/c they can be easier to deal with. Granted not always the case, but more times than not.
an attorney should know the priciples of indemnity are violated if you put new parts on an old car b/c it would be considered putting him in a better position. (unless the car is only 2-3yrs old)
Unless you have a car that is 2-3yrs old or newer, brand new parts are a must, other than than you should try to go with aftermarket or LKQ unless not available at which you have no choice but to go new. the best way to avoid aftermarket is to request LKQ aka recycled. they take an undamaged part from another car of same year, like mileage, etc and use instead. LKQ is OEM and the issues of not properly fitting or being a substandard part is nonexistant.
Posted: Wed May 07, 2008 12:37 pm Post Subject:
My insurance company (Nationwide) has a specific option that you have to purchase in order to get OEM parts in a repair. If you do not purchase that option, then they are under no obligation to provide OEM parts for the repair. I personally don't have a problem with aftermarket parts since, in my experience, they have been of equal or greater quality than the OEM parts. You have to realize that since automakers are producing thousands of vehicles, their parts are going to come from the lowest bidder. Just because the automaker uses a specific part does not necessarily mean that it is of the highest quality.
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 01:12 am Post Subject:
wilheldp,
My insurance company (Nationwide) has a specific option that you have to purchase in order to get OEM parts in a repair. If you do not purchase that option, then they are under no obligation to provide OEM parts for the repair. I personally don't have a problem with aftermarket parts since, in my experience, they have been of equal or greater quality than the OEM parts. You have to realize that since automakers are producing thousands of vehicles, their parts are going to come from the lowest bidder. Just because the automaker uses a specific part does not necessarily mean that it is of the highest quality.
That is likely true to a point, but you left off an important point, which is, ...from the lowest bidder that can consistently meet or exceed their Quality Specification.
If the traditional group of suppliers providing After Market collision repair parts had been or would have been consistently meeting or exceeding OEM Quality Specification, does anyone really believe that Consumers and Repairers alike would be complaining about A/M parts?
FK,
Posted: Thu May 08, 2008 01:23 am Post Subject:
mbyork,
Unless you have a car that is 2-3yrs old or newer, brand new parts are a must, other than than you should try to go with aftermarket or LKQ unless not available at which you have no choice but to go new. the best way to avoid aftermarket is to request LKQ aka recycled. they take an undamaged part from another car of same year, like mileage, etc and use instead. LKQ is OEM and the issues of not properly fitting or being a substandard part is nonexistant.
Back in the early to late Eighties that would have been accurate. But with the current Volume of A/M parts being pushed into the market by insurers on autos as new as one year old, the likelihood of an LKQ (insurer re-name for used Junk yard part) being a *Used After Market part is very likely.
FK
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 01:00 pm Post Subject:
My insurance company (Nationwide) has a specific option that you have to purchase in order to get OEM parts in a repair.
Man do I ever wish ALL companies offered that!!!!!!!!*Used After Market part is very likely.
huh? (to me) and on all my estimates a 'used' or 'recycled' part is a used oem part...a reman part is a remanufactored oem part...an a/m part is a part not manufactored by the orginal manufactor...
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 01:21 pm Post Subject:
My point wasn't that OEM parts are crap, just that they aren't the end-all-be-all of quality. I had my car repaired with an aftermarket bumper cover and I couldn't tell any difference whatsoever between it and the OEM part.
On both of my claims (only had 2...ever), the adjustor went to great pains to explain the quality of aftermarket vs. OEM parts, and they were shocked when I said I didn't care. Apparently they get a LOT of argument from their insured when they mention aftermarket parts.
Posted: Fri May 09, 2008 03:52 pm Post Subject:
Of course they get a lot of complaints because insureds believe they should be able to get a new part even though their previous was 10 years old. They don't understand the like kind and quality. In my history of dealing with autos (had three that needed quite a bit of work) A/M parts are just as good if not better than OEM. But getting back to the original post...we will never live in a hassle-free the real question is...is the issue worth the hassle. In this case I believe that the insurer was offering what he usually does but "Bob" gave him a hard time because he wanted better than like kind and quality and the insurer gave in to make the insured happy.
Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 11:48 am Post Subject:
In this case I believe that the insurer was offering what he usually does but "Bob" gave him a hard time because he wanted better than like kind and quality and the insurer gave in to make the insured happy.
Sounds to me like ''bob's'' claim was subrogated...The bully escaped narrowly but was trapped later in the morning .
The rep probably 'gave up' because it wasn't worth the hassle as the claimant carrier was going to just pay based on their payment.Add your comment