by Guest » Sun Apr 19, 2009 03:13 am
Hi:
I am a home buyer in the market for a short sale/foreclosure. As in 99% of the cases, getting a home through a short sale/foreclosure typically means you will have some sort of 'automatic' equity in the home. That being the case, can I get an appraisal after I purchase a home and if the appraisal comes back that shows, along with my downpayment, I am below the 80% or even 75% threshold for PMI, I can get rid of PMI? I've had three lenders say, "No...you must fulfill a 2 year period of having PMI." while another lender said, "yes...we deal with two PMI companies that don't have a seasonal length of time required to cancel." Is that true???
I am a home buyer in the market for a short sale/foreclosure. As in 99% of the cases, getting a home through a short sale/foreclosure typically means you will have some sort of 'automatic' equity in the home. That being the case, can I get an appraisal after I purchase a home and if the appraisal comes back that shows, along with my downpayment, I am below the 80% or even 75% threshold for PMI, I can get rid of PMI? I've had three lenders say, "No...you must fulfill a 2 year period of having PMI." while another lender said, "yes...we deal with two PMI companies that don't have a seasonal length of time required to cancel." Is that true???
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 04:56 am Post Subject:
Hi Guest,
Although you have put this question over here in home insurance forum but still what i feel is that you should ask this question on mortgagefit forum (link for this forum is available on the upper middle side of this page named as mortgage forum)
or else click here
http://www.mortgagefit.com/discuss/
you will get better answer for this question if you can post over there.
Thanks for your patience.
:wink: :wink:
Posted: Sun Apr 19, 2009 01:52 pm Post Subject:
I am below the 80% or even 75% threshold for PMI, I can get rid of PMI? I've had three lenders say, "No...you must fulfill a 2 year period of having PMI." while another lender said, "yes...we deal with two PMI companies that don't have a seasonal length of time required to cancel." Is that true???
It depends on the wording of the insurance contract...every pmi ins i've ever had said 80%, so I was able to get it removed quickly...shop for the carrier (unless it's a state thing) that does not have a min. time, but percentage of debt/coll ratio instead.Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 01:13 am Post Subject:
I have seen several PMI insurance policies that actually say that it is mandatory until you either reach 80% of Fair Market Value or 80% of the Original Purchase Price (whichever is less). This means:
You Buy your House at $100,000
5 Years Later your mortgage balance is $94,000
Your House is now Appraised at 120,000
IF you were allowed to choose...you could drop PMI! However, the PMI insurance company could make you keep it until you only owed $80,000 on your mortgage (unless you chose to refinance).
It all depends on how it is worded, but it is not uncommon to see people refinancing their mortgages in order to drop PMI!
Posted: Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:51 pm Post Subject:
Hi Chris,
It's clear that once it's $80,000 I'd be allowed to drop PMI unless I choose to refinance. However, I'm not too sure of what minimum amount would allow me to drop PMI if I'm opting for a refinance.
Crossbreed
Posted: Thu Apr 23, 2009 02:30 pm Post Subject:
Hi..
IF you were allowed to choose...you could drop PMI!
If I'd be allowed to choose and I don't go for refinancing..can the PMI company still force me to keep it?
Circus_Jones
Posted: Fri Apr 24, 2009 09:49 am Post Subject:
Hi Amit,
you will get better answer for this question if you can post over there.
If it's a question regarding mortgage then I'm sure the mortgage forum would be a better place. On the other hand, if it's a query on PMI then an insurance forum should be the right place.
Roddick
Posted: Sat Apr 25, 2009 01:37 pm Post Subject:
If I'd be allowed to choose and I don't go for refinancing..can the PMI company still force me to keep it?
I think they would ask you to carry it. Steven
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:41 am Post Subject:
Hi all
A PMI can be dropped only if the balance outstanding principal is 78 % of the total Mortgage. By Law no insurance co. can force you to keep the PMI if you have got a balance of 78% on your mortgage.
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 10:59 am Post Subject:
Hi DJ,
that was completely technical information you've shared. If it is true what you've mentioned it is a sad state situation on how the insurance co. guys manipulate misguide and fool people on the information.
But along with the 78% o/s principal criteria there has to be some minimum period criteria parallel to it.
GNP
Posted: Tue May 05, 2009 11:22 pm Post Subject:
If it is true what you've mentioned it is a sad state situation on how the insurance co. guys manipulate misguide and fool people on the information.
WHAT? gnp? How do you figure that? and 'which' ins co. guys are manipulating and misguiding and fooling people?by the way..I've had PMI dropped from three or four mortgages over the years, and the critera was less than 80%, no time length.
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