by Guest » Tue Jun 23, 2009 03:27 pm
The life insurance beneficiary form has other odd things about it.
So I have been on the internet trying to find that this form exists. I can not find it anywhere. In was done in 2007 not that long ago. It is not on the veterans affairs website. It does not exist on the internet. Maybe it is outdated. But its no where. I can find a similiar form with a different number.
Another odd thing is there is NO contingent. None.
Another odd thing is there is a box where the want the maker to write in an explanation of their intent. Nothing.
. we already know someone else wrote in the beneficiary, no contingent, no intent. Nothing. I wonder if we have a forged signature? it sure looks authentic.
What other things raise warning flags of tampering? Am i missing anything?
I also was very surprised to read that POA can not change a beneficiary designation or sign it. Unless they have specific authority outlined in their poa documents. So If a regular poa can not complete the form i suppose a friend cant either.
So I have been on the internet trying to find that this form exists. I can not find it anywhere. In was done in 2007 not that long ago. It is not on the veterans affairs website. It does not exist on the internet. Maybe it is outdated. But its no where. I can find a similiar form with a different number.
Another odd thing is there is NO contingent. None.
Another odd thing is there is a box where the want the maker to write in an explanation of their intent. Nothing.
. we already know someone else wrote in the beneficiary, no contingent, no intent. Nothing. I wonder if we have a forged signature? it sure looks authentic.
What other things raise warning flags of tampering? Am i missing anything?
I also was very surprised to read that POA can not change a beneficiary designation or sign it. Unless they have specific authority outlined in their poa documents. So If a regular poa can not complete the form i suppose a friend cant either.
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 08:47 am Post Subject:
So If a regular poa can not complete the form i suppose a friend cant either.
Okay MightyOak, what do you mean by completing the form? If the individual in question is unable to fill in the entire form himself, he may take help from other but the form should clearly mention his intetion and needs to be signed by the applicant.
I think there is a difference between the form being filled out by someone and the sign being forged. Have you challenged the changed form in the court of law?
Posted: Mon Jun 29, 2009 06:17 pm Post Subject: ok
Ok hi kelvin. I posted what was going on in another post, but you might have missed it. But I'm looking for possible forgery on the actual form. I am taking it to court.
I have my fathers male friend ( under oath) actually admitting to writing in HIS wifes name as the beneficairy on my fathers form. If he did that what else did he do? He got my fathers life insurance for his wife. this happened the day after my father was released from the hospital very sick.
There was a witness, an old man, and the witness testimony about the change of beneficiary does not match the male friend who wrote his wife in on the form. Two testimonies, two different stories. No one can figure out what actually happened. Someone is not telling the truth.
The witness says this fellow was not there that day. If the male friend admits to writing in his wife, and was NOT there. Then what did the witness, witness then? nothing?
I can not find that form anywhere on the internet. It seems to have not been in use in 2007, (government form) a similiar form was used to change beneficiaries, but not that one. Or at least so far i can not find it, I mean anywhere. so I am wondering if it is forged. Something is wrong. theres no contingent, there is a space for intent. nothing in there.
These people were so bad, there is nothing i would not put past them. They tried to get the house, the car,and more.
The signature appears to be my fathers and the date.The numbers look like his.
Totally out of character. My father would list the ingredients for a BLT, as bacon lettuce and tomato with a quarter teaspoon of mustard. Very detailed oriented type.
I am missing something obvious. I feel it in my bones. I do not have the original.Just a copy of the original.
I am wondering if its the cut and paste technique. I'm over looking something.
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:51 am Post Subject:
Hi MightyOak, can it be the case that this fellow had taken your father's signature by forgery without even the old man knowing that he had signed on the beneficiary change form?
Later on he might have put the beneficiary name in it at his convenience. May be there was no signing of form on the said date. The witness is just repeating what he was told at that time and may be too sacred to change his version now.
I know it sounds like a plot of a movie :wink:
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 01:08 pm Post Subject:
Hi mightyoak,
I guess it would then be easy for you to prove that your father was sick even on the day he was released from the hospital.
Do you have medical documents supporting the continuation of his treatment or his sickness upon his release?
Then what did the witness, witness then? nothing?
What does the witness have to say regarding this?
Steven
Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 02:36 pm Post Subject: it is like a movie
Hey you guys. It is like a plot in a movie. Its been like a bad dream in a way.
Well there are some things ok with the form. It was sent from the government To my father, because his name and address is right on the form.(so they didnt send for it)
The date was april, and the word april sure looks like fathers handwriting. So that appears ok.
The signature? I dont know, looks like his.(cut and paste?) Its all very interesting.
Oh I happen to have the hospital release form dated the day before. I have ll that. 14 medicines on that list. That week my father was in the hospital, and i was in and out of the house, but not home all the time. So they could have gone right in the house I suppose.
The witness doesnt talk to me. So i dont know if he has figured out that both their stories are different yet.
It gets even better. The man that did is dying.
So I have a deceased father and about to have a deceased culprit. But we have the testimony, so i think i can go onward with it all. Because the suit is against them both husband and wife.
unbelievable.
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