by MaxHerr » Thu Sep 16, 2010 02:47 am
Lowering health care costs by 1 percent will create 320,000 jobs nationwide and raise median family income by $6,800 by 2030
This is one of the leading statements the "Council of Economic Advisers" published that the idiots in Congress relied on to enact the Obamacare legislations.
By extrapolation, if we eliminate 100% of the cost of health care -- free for everyone -- then there will be 32,000,000 new jobs created, and the median family income will increase by $680,000.
We'll all be healthy and happy. And since every family will be making $680,000 more per year, the government will be collecting so much more in taxes that government will be able to do everything it wants to do.
Since our current unemployment rate of 9.6% in August 2010 = 14,900,000 persons are out of work, free healthcare means there will be jobs for all of these persons PLUS 17,100,000 vacancies -- enough to allow all the current illegal immigrants to remain in the US and make room for another 5,000,000 or so.
So I think Congress should just go ahead and pass one final piece of legislation to make healthcare free for everyone in America. I could use a small part of my $680,000 to buy a plane ticket to somewhere else in the world where sanity prevails.
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 07:05 am Post Subject:
Max, you have such interesting topics and you also make them look so simple!
I'd still wait for your explanation on how it will affect each state - I'm sure there are other factors that are state specific and we still need to cope with them till we have uniform insurance rules for all states.
It seems great to have health-care free, but what steps do you propose to keep another 5,000,000 out of the American main land!
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 04:09 pm Post Subject:
I think you misread the intent of my post. Free health care is UNWORKABLE. It cannot promise the benefits the Council of Economic Advisers has proposed.
So I think Congress should just go ahead and pass one final piece of legislation to make healthcare free for everyone in America.
was not, in any way, shape, or form, meant to be anything other than a joke. It was intended as pure sarcasm. But if I even had 1/6 of the $680,000 I pondered, I would strongly consider moving my wife and her mother back to Argentina (from where they legally immigrated to the US in 1963), and live within range of the sound of Iguazu Falls in Misiones. If I had more, I would offer to bring my brother-in-law and his family along. Our 13-year-old niece would be just as great a soccer player there as she is here.As for stopping illegal immigration, simply enforcing the laws that have been on the books since Ronald Reagan signed the legislation into law in the mid-1980s. Hasn't happened effectively in these last 25 years.
It's really pretty simple. Pursuing employers who knowingly hire illegal immigrants, finding and fining them, and throwing the most vile offenders into prison as the laws allow would become the deterrent intended by the laws. If there are no jobs for illegal immigrants, they will not come. As long as there are, they will be here.
But we are a bunch of weaklings (at least those in control of things today), and don't want these people to suffer, even though some of them are directly responsible for our own citizens' unemployment, and most of them are responsible for our collapsing health care systems -- at least those dependent on Medicaid to cover their emergency room expenses and doctor's bills.
SB70 in Arizona is simply one state's reaction to the federal government's abdication of its legislated mandate. We'll have to wait and see what the US Supreme Court has to say about it. That, when it happens, and for the time being, will be the definitive answer as to what may be done.
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 07:53 pm Post Subject: Border Patrol Agent
I live in Tucson AZ so I see every day what Illegal Aliens are doing to this country. I have, on two occassions, had to wait for lenthy periods in the emergency room because the Border Patrol is bringing in Illegal Aliens for treatment. On both of these occasions I was diagnosed with Meningitis and needed treatment ASAP and was not given it because the beds were all taken by the Illegal Aliens being brought to this hospital.
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 07:55 pm Post Subject: Border Patrol Agent
I live in Tucson AZ so I see every day what Illegal Aliens are doing to this country. I have, on two occassions, had to wait for lenthy periods in the emergency room because the Border Patrol is bringing in Illegal Aliens for treatment. On both of these occasions I was diagnosed with Meningitis and needed treatment ASAP and was not given it because the beds were all taken by the Illegal Aliens being brought to this hospital.
Posted: Thu Sep 16, 2010 07:59 pm Post Subject: Border Patrol Agent
I was shopping one day and there was a Border Patrol Agent in line behind me. I couldn't contain my anger when he was saying that when he doesn't feel like doing paperwork he gives the Illegal Aliens a bottled water and then just lets them loose to continue there trek into the United States.
In my opinion this Agent needs to be charged with aiding and abetting a criminal.
Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 07:12 am Post Subject:
Obamacare -- 80 million the Americans who were born in 1947-1964 are especially vulnerable.
This generation is the purpose of the program of the dosed out health services based on the age qualification, similar which never before in the country was.
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Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 08:13 pm Post Subject:
Max, the sarcasm in your post, and the undefinable, impossible logic of your numbers shows that you really need more things to do. :D You obviously have waaaay too much time on your hands.
One of the issues I am hearing about fairly constantly regarding ObamaCarePlan, or the "OCP" (do those initials remind you of something else?) is with the health care exchanges that are required by the plan, what role are health agents going to play in this brave new world?
There's some initial and somewhat concerning idea that those working for the exchanges are not going to be required to have any formal licensure or training when dealing with health care coverage or the plans that will be introduced. While these concerns hold some validity, there appears to be some pretty strong partisanship with health insurance agents through the NAIC.
The NAIC is asking that legislation be attached to the PPACA that mandates that those working in certain positions within the exchanges be licensed under the same conditions as current producers and that they obtain licensure through the same process currently being employed in each state. While this legislation does not guarantee those currently licensed a continuing business, it is logical that many of the employment positions within the exchanges will be filled by those who find themselves RIFd out of their producer jobs.
There is a formal, nationwide effort to standardize insurance licensing and continuing education through the Producer Licensing Model Act (PLMA) and the Continuing Education Reciprocity Act (CERA) through the NAIC. Both have been moderately successful in their attempts to stave off federal legislation which appears to be on the horizon. That's another story altogether.
It is critical that the Fed GubMint include the NAICs proposed amendatory legislation to the PPACA, otherwise health insurance agents are going to become an endangered species. If you consider that a vast number of persons are going to obtain coverage via the exchanges- there's going to be a lot of lost business to a lot of insurance producers.
So, read this article and do something to make the Fed GubMint adopt this as part of the PPACA.
READ THIS :arrow: Click http://www.lifeandhealthinsurancenews.com/News/2010/10/Pages/PPACA-Will-Exchanges-Be-Producers.aspx
InsTeacher 8)
Posted: Tue Oct 26, 2010 05:57 pm Post Subject:
There's some initial and somewhat concerning idea that those working for the exchanges are not going to be required to have any formal licensure or training when dealing with health care coverage or the plans that will be introduced.
Yes! It could end up being operated the same way the Local Area Agencies on Aging (we call the program HICAP -- Health Insurance Counseling and Advocacy Program -- in California) have been mandated by the "GubMint" to deal with seniors and their Medicare/Medicaid/LTC issues. Here, those agencies are staffed mostly by "volunteers" with "special certification" (a 6 or 8 hour training course of some kind?) but they are not licensed as agents.
When it was time for my mom to sign onto a Medicare Advantage plan several years ago with the implementation of Part D, I referred her to the analog agency in Washington state to get "their unbiased assessment" of the difference between the two plans I found through the Medicare.gov website that I felt would be in her best interests.
Well, the nit she spoke to over the phone said, "Neither of those companies is on our list." Imagine! On the "GubMint's" own approved list and not on the local agency's list. Lots of value there.
More of the same to come under the full implementation of Obamacare ("OCP" -- hadn't heard it like that before -- how clever is that!! Maybe the world needs to offer a new assignment to Jason Bourne -- to put the OCP out of its misery).
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